Pablo Sandoval has surgery, done for the season, but may still eventually bring value to the Red Sox – WEEI.com
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I let’s begin with the apologies if that’s up out of the way because you did say Thornton. That you would apologize if it turned out that there was actually something physically wrong with this guy. Can I just. Admit that I was mistaken and move on a delay actually physically have to say. I’m sorry I it was actually apparently worse than they thought when they got in their according to Jeff passel of Yahoo! Sports. And repair Hubble late Brohm up on lately Brohm to air and clean up of the rotator cup now this is Jeff pass and talking Red Sox have nots and anything. He is expected to be done until 2017. I guess it was bad outspent. That that was never more or some of us there was never doubt that and then I actually like herbs and natural Roger and it’s it’s and is thought I up. Good guy is up Bob yeah. Okay you’re gonna. Have. I hit it. If you let thousands are really one of the best moments in the history of Sports Radio W yeah I go to my top ten. Felt great. What Mozee dollars and four I know I don’t well but it’s not what’s agenda is so and so stupid and of course the Sports Radio all that stupid or stupid. You know the total was trolling before we knew what trolling was I think Pakistan. Reimport it. I’d take this would demonstrate is the guy so overly serious that he couldn’t take it joking just kind of roll with it. Yes I don’t think that he ever cracked letting his entire life or heard want to recognized one. You may have though he may have to go to yet so Pablo Sandoval. A free agent society who is out for the year and it makes me one start another category of a start another category. Work for free agency. There’s of the big time free agent. Ought to go away from free agency like big time and I note you know David Price is seven years citing inept I get an eighth and I don’t have promised that signing. And if you go back big time signings that worked out there’s Manny Ramirez. There’s probably the best free agent signings there will be a positive one of the best and that’s not the Beth and Dave Ortiz you know would that. Ortiz and that bank for the about okay Ortiz got a big time free agent signing in the low level. In terms of you know eighteen to twenty million plus. Many repairs but most of those guys. Don’t work out for the rents are so you know Pedro Martinez out of preakness and the trade form yeah. Curt Schilling they traded form a distraught. Get your outlook Curt Schilling about Pedro marketed under try to get it okay at a pilot pilot. So this day. Rejects free agency for awhile to create this year’s category that Alex spear spears SP yours. To spear is all over. Minor minor leaguers in up and comers. I want the Boston Red Sox. To really focus on. Guys who are about to be in their prime trade for those guys trade form if you have there original contracts and maybe the red earth can negotiate with them. Without going crazy and creative team competing with the rest of the league. Or trade for those guys are just work creating. An aerial work that you’re. Old miner rafter in the development Jericho what the Boston Red Sox did that don’t listen to these negative people John Henry Tom Warner. Sam Kennedy. John Ferro. Dave to browse to whoever that your listeners peoples face caved and bought the kid that Boston. That is that is eight edit the where urban legend has been going on for years and years. Yes you can. If you tell the people we have a plan. You can. Polar off. Well let’s talk. Pablo for just a moment here in and look right now it looks like the worst contract maybe they’ve ever signed anybody they’ve got our governor and they’ve got lots of cannot slot where that came from so let’s talk about Pablo from home. I think it was last night when I first saw. I can rose and Paul tweeted out. Contract was not sure. And you know you wonder about that you think about it at times he came with box that he had some shoulder issues. I you know you assumed that the Red Sox did their due diligence and you know that that whole you know the contract is pending physical and right they are they do all that stuff. So they they look at a date they examine he would do MRIs you do X rays you do whatever you. You gotta do and and that you don’t insure that we’re. So I it’s more it all on them now more and weird too bad it’s wryly that a guy who balked at San Francisco asking him to allow all week clause in his contract. And left town because of it and then he comes here in the Sox to say what weight clauses added Asia forget Ellen just take that right out we’ll just move along. Vera debt that’s such a red flag to ensure. You know is it does a guy that’s cute. RD telling you you can question my commitment to staying in shape and I’m not saying that the shoulder is a direct result of his weight. But I think not all part and parcel it’s all part of the Ontario labor and could your fat. You don’t eat. How are right but it’s all part of the same the same package you can’t separate. The you know the injuries from his lack of conditioning because it’s all part of the same guy you’ve got damaged goods. And the guy with our roster only new I’ve I’ve not gonna make a commitment I I don’t want to be below I wanna play at whatever weight uncomfortable playing and that no matter what you want. That’s not a guy you throw a ton of money. Okay I’m an and I know that he’s the puns just keep coming. Unintentional but I don’t I thought hey you can’t argue that all the full article only to volunteer yes you sir are so. 2000. Well we wanna call in 2015. With us on 2015 to example. 2015 for example of a free agency gone wrong. I guess I’m Ahmet put that a publisher involved right now hammy runners is in a good space. Not gonna pick on him. Not even though that was way too much they they bid against themselves but still. He’s playing. He’s playing a different position and he seems to be happy in the inning in his teammates seemed like on the management seemed to like him right now with Euro acting but. Right now 2015. Of the example is. Problems and Novo. We can go on the list. At the Red Sox. Carl Crawford. I don’t know if you put J. D. Drew on the list. Are popular put. Edgar Renteria on the list. Ager in Adrian Gonzales was a trade. And I don’t know Cooper John Lackey. On the list. What you go to on the list in the league you go to town and — year by year and you think about some of these freeagent acquisitions. It didn’t work out a lot of big money spent. And it and it leads me to this. Jerry Norton and my brother’s keeper yes I am I’m not gonna let you out there by yourself to apologize and apologize till. John Henry. John Henry talked about free agency and we’ve mocked him. Pop pop off other teams that other teams spend all that money follows the advice. But I but yet the right idea right well we said was you got the money spent eight Ramadan on his right. He’s right. For the most part. An antibody in 51% of the time. 80% of the time doesn’t work out higher you go. The worse it usually gets the David Price on May not work now you may not. They may not know we don’t know and act and act statistically you’d say it ball. Because they don’t they don’t read mostly trying to keep it okay. Albert pools. Thought I’d go out at a Boston Harbor polls going with the angels. Big money or money for a purple capsule model in just letting him go. Destroy the cardinals as a competitor coverage as hitters yeah I’ll fats at the other guy I didn’t hear anything else buddy that cardinal aggravate listen if you’re allowed to break into another team’s you know computer system and to look at all their scouting. Information of course you can be great to resist that and the news is Nolan Nolan started about different. Breaking news that they would do well to work on now what he’s done here if a project that it’s time. Got things going to lose it I think it’s fair to say it it’s a hypothetical but it’s it’s one week and we can hash out here. Red Sox management all of this are. It in with a three cheaper chips on talk of Theo and the trio in cherry did an output number of ski in this right now. Probably wouldn’t be able to compete if there was a salary cap in baseball. They’ve they’ve never given us an indication that they could that that the championships that they’ve won what one with the checkbook largely they don’t win them without. You know pay and pay Joseph big money they don’t they don’t win without a sign in. Mary Mary’s to a contract that people thought was X rays yet that’s. What Pedro but paying paying Pedro. I haven’t yet seen what a learning what jobs it would at least that’s a Smart one because now you’ve got a guy. What you don’t have to compete with the rest of baseball I think that that’s the important thing that numbers don’t have to go that high if you identify the guy and you say okay. We’re gonna bring them to Boston ever gonna pay him. Market value what we consider to be market value is going to be an a one on one negotiation because we’ve trade forms and now we don’t have to worry about. You know 29 other teams governor and air you know whispering in his ear it’s just us. So it makes sense it to get a guy who was the Cy Young winner. In the National League the year before you bring them to Boston. And you give him a nice contract in the in retrospect the contract was. Was reasonable six years and with every two million dollars it was the highest in in the history of baseball and I still have I’ve said this before I said again. Headline writer wrote that headline writer was it was for the Boston Herald at the time that great Pedro PAY growth. And and and the contract terms on there Austin. It’s memorable. Almost twenty years ago and I still remember the headline okay no situations short even though Coco Crisp didn’t work out. That’s another when you trade it for Coco Crisp young player you think he’s on the rise in the center fielder. You pay hand. Okay lost his job and a World Series Jacoby Ellsbury took over. I don’t have a problem with those but you start going it’s just too many. You go east or going out and get in the Carl Crawford and start going out in and and maybe David Price is on the list. Hanley Ramirez. Pablo stand evolve. It’s it cannot rely. If it’s probably not gonna work out. In the other salary cap sports with the exception of basketball which which as we’ve said is all about getting a superstar and you have to pay them maxed dollars for those guys help put that aside. Football hockey you’d you’d don’t. Just have the luxury of throwing a ton of money at a guy and that makes you competitive view you win by. Developing your own guys get the most out of them before they cash and you might have a superstar here there. Put you can’t paid crazy money and expect to compete the teams that. That state competitive in the NFL would be more like to translate into baseball terms. Well like the wave of the Tampa Bay Rays compete. They draft well they develop guys where’s the Red Sox model lose. We have we have got unlimited resources of what gonna pay for those guys and. By the way it wasn’t we applaud the battle it out it’s clear that I’m just like I don’t is that we’ve always know we have got leveled at least they’re out they’re spending it. And we criticized other owners in this town see Jeremy Jacobs who we didn’t think was spending it. So so as a and we’re saying cut at least there try at least they’re up they’re spend that money but not try to do this thing on the cheap. Which are right doing it on the cheap might be the better way to do doing at. It either on the cheap. In house but I mean are raping and development and drafting and developing towards giving the guy who the rest of the market looks adamant that if he’s on seventeen million dollar a year player how would not worried about him and get him for. In a twelve nothing. There are ten yard three year like it did in 2013. 2013 a perfect example. And maybe those guys all of whom had cut the Elson and a one year contract but it doesn’t matter he won a World Series two years too long were. For Shane Victorino correct is great 2013. After that there’s injuries Avago. Two years too long probably four. Or even longer nap from Mike Napoli. They were able to move on from him Jonny Gomes. Those guys they they were good at at the moment they were glue guy. But they weren’t the big time freeagent. Art if if John Henry was right and and you said that I agree with John Henry was right it’s not the way to deal. And he has said it’s not the weighted. That might keep it. He’s he’s the bottom line requests and he he’s the guy or nobody nobody goes higher than him on the masthead. Want to keep that record he’s got media reps he’s got example after example after example just since he told the team. Of doing things like that that it failed here fan pressure. Yeah. An immediate pressure. I mean we know their PR conscience of conscious. Or should there and and they care about what you think. Nursery care about what we think but you know we did we give people stirred up but the thing troublemakers. Always look you’ll yet so we start cause trouble in the fifth start date Red Sox are cheap. Got to do something or maybe it’s not just the fan pressure may be of that that focus group that we were talking about awhile ago. That whole nest and focus group meets and sexy players. Not I happen to think that bookie bet very sexy to advocate it up what Robert smoky. But maybe they want somebody else. But it looked they think sexy. Equates to spending 20/20 530 million dollars a year. I I I know that the guy who sign follow sent a ball is not here okay. Great piece on Alex spirit great piece on bench Harrington and teaching you know visiting professor and all that up but I know he’s not he. But at some point does John Henry asked Dave Dombrowski and my case in the baseball optimistic it can out of my office for a few minutes clinical over a couple of things here. Happy. The local. Don’t get their best that you bought the collective bad side and a record at the bad now at least Brodsky was data that opposite I didn’t do it it’s I’ve got my. All I OK if they worsens and it. It accuses dale talked. That I. Well yeah. Liquor that whole. Only time with the idea cutie Kabul the stock yard when you get off the year after yeah press actually. That is. That’s not your heart or the real proud that time however the crack at this stockyards. But but if you’re John Henry downing UCC is contract right here. Topless on a ball thing. This is what I don’t wanna do. Well and he apple pro when they do it. Q we assumed that bench Harrington didn’t sign tablets and about that deal without John Henry’s approval written approval probably. Got any of you look at it if it’s great and had a team record spend money. It’s it’s there it’s a if not a problem at all you know. Some people say more money more problems not necessarily having those who say that habit. You know. It’s not a problem. They got money it’s not a problem. So. If you’re John Henry what you say are you looking at third baseman. Our third baseman last year was brought cult before they got problems in. Our third baseman last year was Brock cold. I know you don’t think Brock cold is an everyday guy effort you guys say this enough. My baseball people so our options are Brock hold somebody in the system. Or probable Santa. Totally based on how the third baseman of operated in the system. That I habit such a good option you know middle Brooks off what they tell you yeah yeah. OK you got you got Rocco will metal Brooks. And then you know and get down there that’s Travis shocked the first baseman maybe we can get that third but he a couple of years away and being nice city will you know a thank you. Now there’s an okay. What would John Henry be a bad owner we said we heard that he said now. It’s not work doping problem and Novo is really worth that. Summarize it and we killed four we will in this town available and it would ever throw all of it probably would’ve been wrong. And I and I think the reason they did sign him as I ice sense that there is no real core philosophy there. You know what they do is reactionary. They’d be had a real hard time score runs in 2014. So they dissent okay what you know what get out the checkbook here it’s. We’ll just get the two biggest hitters on the free agent market and will solve the problem that way. Even the old bulls weren’t the kind of guys that were good fits here in and you know. Questionable how they weren’t at it’ll locker room and that kind of stuff and didn’t give you effort. And part of haven’t a philosophy is to stick to it as sometimes it sucks there there are no worst days on the sports calendar here than the first two days all right well free agents tell me about it because this the only team that sticks the wolf velocity and it’s not that. And then the second and third day you start to see some movement and by the end of eagle OK I have a clear picture of what they’re trying to deal. It also means singing go by the guys that you don’t wanna keep. I mean that you would rather of kept I think what this team has done right is the times they have let guys go Jacoby Ellsbury walked mark very thought it worked out that. You can argue Jon Lester right now is he’s now haven’t held a series archer was the right oh firmware that’s perfect timing. And we knew it was gonna be really really good three year may be too. I remember when we’re talking about a time it’s year three year four and he just fell off the planet. Maybe you think about it now I didn’t realize and to the other day we were talking about Pedro for an end to import for context can remember what the specific what it. Pedro. In 2003. And it it was right there for 2003. ERA shoes straight across to do to some like. 2004. World Series winning year 39. From the shoes. At 39. In a year so and that is why not just free agent year. So you’re talking 2005678. What do you get out of that. And and I know they wanted Pedro back and they felt why ache. You know maybe wasn’t he didn’t tell him everything that he wasn’t completely forthcoming. With with what he wanted and the Mets got a it was a right move to call wheels very. I think everybody was aboard there wasn’t you didn’t hear a lot of fans saying you gotta keep Ellsbury. Only viewing only people said got to keep Ellsbury with a Red Sox. I I had TV and they are players out our players and an example even after that now as Jon Lester. How could they let Jon Lester got how did they not get Jon Lester signed by that I don’t think Jon Lester is awful. Is his record in Chicago so far is thirteen and thirteen. At this moment though he’s got a 183 ERA in five starts I mean east. He’s good so far this year but last year he was RA was pretty good. The problem is they they had replaced them in and knowledge is better what they had here right unfortunate they’ve replaced them with John last. You know at a guy who is similar agent paid a lot more money form. So I mean the jury’s still out on that one but by and large when you let a guy go it’s painful for a little while but then the sun comes up the next day. You can replace him if you have a good farm system and that that would be a better its system long term. Then haven’t risky get a steal and Allen Craig and troubles and a bomb making and Gil de they have the gross domestic product of like a small country. You guys say farm system. Icy spears system. Apparently Alex error system that’s what we’re gonna abdicate. We’ll talk some baseball run off the top your 6177797937. U and Texas whenever it like at 37937. It’s dale on Hollywood Thornton Sports Radio WEEI. Six. I don’t mean I don’t know I don’t know a soul. I’m not about the zone good and I don’t know man I I’ll ask gonna let them anything that this patient still. I don’t know he’s settlement this certainly found out. While not only is he he did it was reportedly done today earlier today according to John Hayman. And according to Jeff pass and a little more extensive perhaps than originally planned. Repair of idol Abram chair and cleanup of rotator cup once more surgery stop orient. Outside of baseball but of interest the local fans I’ve got three. Boston Bruins surgery notes to give. Matt olasky just had surgery on. Left hand on his left hand he’ll miss the next six weeks. David crate she. Just had surgery on his left hip will miss the next five months. Calling crow it’s kind of big news Torre cruel just had surgery on his right shoulder. Will miss the next six months. At that time out toward group whose contract. Contractor and Torre are clearly exactly Tori crude it it according to the timetable here would miss. Whatever games they play in the month of luck. Our mom so it was good record got a great team for five months flings a lot. Wow. And begs the question as well what we asked this all the time why don’t they go under the knife. That day after the season ends why is there’s at. Dale asking was what’s four weeks ago here and we know it did I mean if you’re at around 08 months. You want to hasten that process. That the process don’t you wanna get under that the gun as soon as you possibly campus five months include the although all the rehab we’re talking about gaining Barrick. Into playing condition or back onto the ice to start a rehab program because if you are getting bit of rehab as continues his rehab is included. Then he’ll be there for the first. Game of the season. But. Great Q a five months from now well docked. Provided no here here’s the issue with greatly dermatology and again he’s named to the initial sixteen man roster for the World Cup. Which takes place in September. Runs from September 17 to October 1 it’s right around that ballpark which is what the five months would be but if you’re the Bruins. Are you gonna lecture or thirty year old alternate captain participate the world cup of hockey. I immediately after being healthy enough to play again before it comes and plays for us. Inning crooks case there was thoughts that dot that he may make the American team for the World Cup well that’s done now. Now we’re talking November for him November for crew in and October for Cray. Maybe September you know late September that sort of thing around now actually not a special you with that the Jerry injury rule which always appliances. Whatever they say the timetable is at least try to add 50%. So authors say in five months of saying seven and a half months is to be. Realistic his guys tend to their competitors they come back too soon way more often than they just turn a delay a boats and. You know wait until they’re a 100% before they get back out there there are setbacks. It’s fraught with difficulty no way shape or form can they allow him to go play some meaningless tournament. So there’s the bad news from the bruins’ perspective we’ve given you the surgery news from the Red Sox perspective. I’m trying to find something good here and I’m having a heart all give our argued there’s other targeted piece of patriots news today. Today they declined the fifth year option on newly acquired offensive lineman Jonathan Cooper. Now that’s kind of the trend in the NFL here what it means is we screwed up on Arctic. If we decline to fifty eruption he wasn’t quite what we thought he was going to be type of player right now they didn’t pick Cooper obviously Arizona did. They didn’t sign into the contract Arizona did there was a question about whether they would pick up the option or not they declined to pick up the fifth year option today uncle. Sophie turns into a pretty good player than no try to sign him they’ll try to Sodom on their terms yeah but not by the terms of of fifth of the fifth year option for a guy who was a top ten pick. In the draft. And I am right that they would have had to have picked it up now. This is the deadline okay so you’re you’re facing a bunch of teams in the NFL today announcing that they are not pick now a couple bit. A couple did pick up the fifth year option. But for the most part what you’re seeing is team saying that he wasn’t quite what we thought he was going to be. We’re gonna decline at fifty. Option our values that you look for something good the good news is retirement we’re talking about Pablo cent of all and how he’s out for the season the good news is that they have somebody. To replace them. He’s he’s replaced him all year and he’s been fine he’s he hasn’t been an issue. You have to let that he had even thought import second. Our man Travis stars there would be nice if he had Pablo Santa vol plate that now. It’s it’s it’s been he’s been a problem really has been a non factor and that’s that’s good news for the Red Sox are you talk about. The fact that they’re playing good baseball and they’ve had somebody. To replace and evolve and there’s even more good news I still think yes trade value. General. I get straight. Guy you wanted to speak for both of us still well. Stuff and I looked at because he’s he’s actually a Smart guy I am trying to I’m trying to think along was in the air. Not not immediately not for a long time don’t know carry trade right now at no I about like like next year a year after the matter. I think action and for and 2017 and comes back when he seventeen it’s not a this is not a death sentence that type of surgery where the year it is not throwing shoulder which edit thing whether your position player or pitcher. And and believing UA irony of ironies. And it and take it for what it’s worth I either trust me you don’t have a source who says golf forties lost fourteen pounds. So as of body fat indexes down to let down a lot of older 11% that it mentioned that it mentioned body for a forty pounds and never get what you want for went for Al I already can fourteen pounds. And there was a you know there was there were some conversations with him and I I guess the Red Sox didn’t know the magic words to say Brett. Apparently. We of people abandoned car blows here and telling him. Hey this is bigger than baseball. Like if you’re a girl let it seriously yet don’t have dinner or your head out and then goes what you’ve talked about it at the instinct. This is big gonna baseball men that don’t don’t think about it as well they’re just trying to give gonna lose weight because they want me to play derby okay well. That’s true right should want a little. But this is a much larger and apparently. Saying it that way. Got his attention right title bars fourteen browns I. I would hope so because it’s a simple trip and to lay out a nursing home multi if there aren’t a lot of older people your size. A lot of Oman on TLC. Are usually in some you know show where they shall people bring in the food and they had to get removed out the side of the house. But guys like him don’t age period end his weight trending up. Is is absolutely a red flag of effect that he put on weight during last season. Is is a real danger sign I’m just skeptical whether he can keep his weight down. Not claim based on your way whether he can actually lose weight while he’s rehabbing from surgery where he’s got to be not is not moving around for us. This fifth apology through. A lot of worries. Because the way except Michael yet we’re dealing. Dale. Here they’re back and apologize deals are friends honesty Friday. Don’t know how to note dishonesty Friday and at least we know I don’t. I op model of where we’re much wherever you’re much more honest Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday and Friday got to work apology as they became apology Friday don’t leave a damn about today about apology Tuesday confession brought an extra traffic in all of our flow around all those lies. But the way it was described to me were. Pablo is hard worker and eat. So there are remembering the reps are all this guy works hard we’re like no he doesn’t work hard. He’s a guy. Who likes to work out. And he’d like to wheat or. There was say yeah there was an article and I apologize for not remembering who wrote it’s like give credit where credit is due it might have been Sean McCadam. Apparently pop those brother. Yeah Michael said that the issue here is would this trainer that problem got a thought that Latvia and that the Red Sox. Went to the straighter it’s elect here’s what we want him to do these are the things we wanted to work on had a whole plan they gave it to before he left here last fall. You know they they checked in on him from time to time these are the things we want him to work on do this this this in this. The trainer basically you know a Pia. The plan that they gave them and shredded. Note that 15. Share organ. Didn’t do any not I’ll tell you what you need to do Pablo I’ve got and and Michael public brother saying there’s your reissue this guy’s talent. The exact opposite of what the Red Sox are talent. Any switched he switched agents to remain in the offseason but he went with another group. So in the trainer and it was good that the whole controversy with it with a trainer. And he’s got some who’s got some things to got something to work out. And I know it sounds like oh okay c’mon the guy likes to eat it really is a dangerous place to be. Where you are Pablo Sandoval size size. Of the two put them at some point as some point you’re captive. You just got to have a disciplined stop or if you don’t have a discipline the stuff. You have to be aware that you don’t have the discipline to do it and get 2000 help. And let’s face it human nature being what it is if you’ve got to. Opinions in eerie air and one of them is saying. You know you gotta live this Spartan life of self denial you gotta gotta work out six hours a day and you’ve got to like pay the price and the other guys saying. You know he ritual on. Your drink what you want you know to get some rest stay on a coach who we don’t listen to you don’t listen to the guy giving you the the crappy advice I eat deck in my life. Are we get right to the calls have you coming up next sorry about the bad news from the bruins’ perspective but that just came up this afternoon as well. 6177797937. It’s Daylon Hollywood foreign and you coming up next Sports Radio WE yeah. Well apparently beyond just being. Apology Tuesday its surgery Tuesday as we gave you the news about public side of all surgery which was undertaken earlier today. We told you about the three members of the Bruins who have had surgery. Very recently Matt the last ski David — cheat Torre croak olasky is just gonna be outs beyond number of weeks he’ll be ready for the start training camp. David Craig cheek five months he won’t be ready for the start of training camp probably not it’ll be right around that time frame Torre crew got six months. Not only will he not be ready for the start of training camp he won’t be ready for the start of the regular season either going to be the end of October before Kruger is ready to an Emmy for his contract. It’s going to be tough I think here I ID Q or read that earlier was throw was right on this is that the worst possible timing for a guy who’s a freeagent. You know and what you wanna what you want is to be healthy and coming off a career year. And he’s got neither he is old for two. Yeah so it’s it’s tough time for Torre cruise probably half the size models one year kind of place holder deals and got better in the big payday the following season. I would think that’s a pretty good guess on your Barton. 6177797937. Eddie’s in Orlando hey Eddie I don’t. I get out and how are you a summer and you know the Red Sox space spoiled us you know they want World Series. And you know they kind of set the standard now and then in England and yet you know I’ll apple columns and I did about dot com cut up and that he got he really played very well. In the offseason ignored Heatley and I think that’s why they all the paper and but I think world oil and that’s sort of keep when he broke spirit and to keep it there aren’t that you keep bringing more talent in here so they have a chance to walk out. I don’t know any got out of Matt thank Eddie I would I would by the argument that if you’re not making it in. But I would buy it viewed if you were to make it is that a big they got publisher and evolve based on what he’s done in the post season. Not a regular season they overpaid forum. And then there’s a marketing element to home as well I might buy that in terms of knowing that Ortiz was leaving. Now accounts so 2015. To bring in. Pablo Sandoval Ortiz had given no indication in 2015. That bit beginning of 151000 babies lessons and yet. Believe it appears I’ll be really appetite under eight I probably not it’s not a good example but you see but it sarcastic I know I know but not not very well so if you think if you think 2000 and if you look at to dive in my Everett got caught up. Any and your 52. But if you look at 2015 season. Was good or were Ortiz right. But it 2016 season right now. Still pretty good at it and if you wanted to say he said I’m gonna play three more years really gonna even two more years it’s time or. I’m puddles and evolved to that kind of contract. To replace David Ortiz in two years. Collier had anything to do with Ortiz at all. Now absolutely and await Ortiz is is hitting you can of. Obsolete projected to play well next year to be able to be productive so. There’s no way that two years ago they signed sin of Alan Ramirez. To replace a guy who’s currently slowed and 633 so give the only good that argument doesn’t wash. Is Arabia when he left in this organization that was dealing with a minor league system back when bench Harrington was here at that McNabb might haze in the GL my case and and I Crockett and Trent Crockett dep because those are the guys that if I’m John Henry on haven’t up we need to talk meeting in I’m gonna say so when will little books didn’t work out okay he projected as a thirty home run guy a hundred RBIs guy. When you work out how did you miss that Trevor shop would be able to move over there. Did nobody think about it I mean I never heard. I L I don’t think there are times when guys just I mean who the hell would have predicted Tom Brady was gonna become Tom Brady there are guys who just defy. You know projections are they just they develop that might be the answer but if I’m asking that question because emote 95 million bucks. On C and evolve a move that we didn’t have to make because we had a guy in our system who. It’s at 322 right now how did you not see the edit Jolie project him as a first baseman and never consider make animal. Year ago and I think that’s an unfair question. Because you talk about a mightily tick mightily K but I think this is a great question. It’s about 95 million dollars for the owner. And he’s saying how did this happen. Here’s a basic one very fair. Why isn’t back with that contract mr. And again I believe that that is a decision that has to come at the ownership level it’s a very expensive proposition. At some point bench Arrington when when they got Pablo sent a ball signed a contract had to say to somebody. Higher than him on the food chain we wanna ensure this deal. Because that’s a that’s a big ticket item here. Right right yeah so maybe he’s asking himself that question maybe they talk to moderated. Maybe I wouldn’t by the new fridge and how eyes and they’re trying to sell you the extended warranty. And let’s say to yourself oh wait a minute and what are the chances it’s actually gone a breakdown on him which is what I decide every single time but if I was buying something that already. Had a bad track record and and was. Clearly has the potential be damaged goods. Young gonna buy it ever used to you do by the warrant I never look at an avid I you don’t isn’t that what that the Red Sox didn’t buy the extended warranty on tablets and all right. The last comic did memo when TVs with a big box with that he’ll the first. Or high Def TVs are they go one off the shelf so okay I’m gonna get the warranty for that. That’s what’s in a policy he was coming off the shelf he would he would be it did a floor model. You know if it’s brand new OK no I’m not gonna buy a megabyte I got in the prime of his career but a 29 year old fat man is screaming out for the extended warranty. And he notices that this is the great thing about professional sports. There’s a side of pro sports that we LC. On the outside to where we’re where outsiders looking into this thing and where were entertained whether whether it’s hockey. Ask Rafa operates whatever it. We are golf. There’s this sport that we see. And it’s it’s oppression and it’s entertaining. But when you’re part of that sport it’s a completely different league have a secret society. They really do when so. They hear. All the chatter they hear all the whispers they know all the tricks. That outsiders don’t know. In you know roll as you’re negotiating for this contract. He would negotiate with a free agent there are no blind teens in here you know we competition is. And get a cents. Through back channels or through the agent yet to figure out you can trust the agent or not get a sense of what the competitions coming up with. And you have to know. She ever Cisco giant said we wanna wait clause in there. We we know the guy annual apparently didn’t ask president we know better than you do wanna wake clause. So you are going there naked. Republic setup but that embassy that make it. Pop most out of hell. And I’m not actually what I think of the other and added honestly I guess I’ll go to a they didn’t do that if it’s it’s very risky too risky as we have were as were learned today as the Red Sox found out. Probably a couple of days ago we’re just finding a but they they knew a couple of days of the news that he needed surgery. 6177797937. YR the next three days in Chicago not only important. 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